Imperium Query (mostly for Blues) *maybe spoilers?*

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Re: Imperium Query (mostly for Blues) *maybe spoilers?*

Mensaje por Light » 05 Feb 2017 13:37

More or Less I agree
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Re: Imperium Query (mostly for Blues) *maybe spoilers?*

Mensaje por SpiritCrusher » 06 Feb 2017 10:37

I believe it is implied in the setting that the Shajads and Beryls are completely out of the league of what Imperium can hope to take down, Deus Machina or not. Has this changed?
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Mensaje por Superhero » 06 Feb 2017 10:52

It hasn't changed but we are just guessing at the moment when it comes to the ratings.

Imperium doesn't use Deus Machina at the moment is the only hint that we have. Back in the days, Imperium probably did use Deus Machina when fighting ridiculously powerful entities but as of right now, even when Baal was at full power during the Third Shadow War, they were only willing to send 3 Patriarchs to end it (no deus machina). Baal back in the day, was quite possibly one of the most powerful entities that appeared in a long time on Gaia.

Imperium has always been planning on taking them down, as they don't believe in limits and are simply taking their time to find a way to kill them. Going by this logic, we are simply estimating that they must be in their rating system for threat levels.
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Mensaje por SpiritCrusher » 06 Feb 2017 11:02

Yes, I remember Imperium plan was to wipe out all divine entities and basically play god themselves.
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Re: Imperium Query (mostly for Blues) *maybe spoilers?*

Mensaje por Sharpandpointies » 06 Feb 2017 14:48

Oh, Barnabas...you wacky, wacky guy.
"But something like Guy-With-A-Zombie being saved by Bob the Zombie getting in the way while I Will Always Love You plays in the background... That I would not allow."
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Mensaje por Superhero » 06 Feb 2017 22:07

We have brief estimate of their levels.

Jurgand agent Level 9
Jurgand agent experienced 10-12
Jurgand protodeus Level 13+
Domine Level 15 (Some domine can be protodeus)
Beginner Patriarch Level 16
Most current patriarchs are level 17+

Should be noted that Jurgand squad are also often custom made/chosen for a task...so they are very well coordinated to take down their target or succeed in their objectives.
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Re: Imperium Query (mostly for Blues) *maybe spoilers?*

Mensaje por Sharpandpointies » 07 Feb 2017 14:04

I've always found that a little low, myself. At least the base agent level.

But if that's official, then....
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Re: Imperium Query (mostly for Blues) *maybe spoilers?*

Mensaje por Fearless Elbow » 07 Feb 2017 14:24

Bear in mind that even an inexperienced, base-level Jurgand agent isn't just 'Level 9 Dude with Sword'.

There'll be various enhancements, ridonkulous weapons and armour, etc., etc. That's nothing to sniff at.

Sure, I wouldn't expect them to beat Nerelas or Kisidan or Lucanor, but they ain't yer granddaddy's Level 9.
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Mensaje por Sharpandpointies » 07 Feb 2017 14:44

Absolutely.

I just always figured it would be more...

- 'Green' Jürgand Soldier right out of training: level 9
- Jürgand Soldier with basic experience: level 10
- Highly Experienced Jürgand Soldier: level 11-12

After that, everything else fits.
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Mensaje por Superhero » 07 Feb 2017 14:51

@sharp: it could be of course, like I say it's just estimate.

Pretty much like fearless mentioned guess it's worth talking about other agents that they have on the field:

Godkillers on the other end are another story, the minimum to be a godkiller is level 10. Derek Shezzard (Level 9/12) is officially known as the weakest Godkiller of the 15 present on Gaia. Kisidan is in the top of 3 of the Godkillers (We don't know if he is the strongest or the weakest of the top 3). The godkillers on Gaia seems to have average level of 12-13 with the possibility that two of them being Level 14+.
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